Archive for May 20th, 2004

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Thursday, May 20th, 2004

48 Catholic Congressmen Warn Bishops on Bigotry”

I don't even know where to begin on this one.
First of all, I suppose, is the “latent anti-Catholic prejudice” that they are afraid might be awakened by the Catholic church if they deny communion to Catholics who vote in support of “abortion, euthanasia, stem-cell research, or gay marriage.” While this might strike one as being a legitimate concern, we elected a Catholic President in 1960. Which was before the civil rights movement. So I think it's safe to say that taking that and the fact that denominational fissures are less important in today's society than they used to be, this is not really a major concern.
As far as it impacts on politics… the Catholic church has every right to say who can and cannot participate in the eucharist. If I were a member of, say, a libertarian club and I started publicly supporting totalitarian ideals, the club would be completely in their rights to toss me out and not let me come to their weekly libertarian picnic and yodeling contest. Or, they could simply say that i was ineligable for the yodeling contest, and allow me to show up as a lapsed libertarian. The whole freedom of association thing says that they can DO that, if they want.
The Catholic church is an organization based on the propagation of moral and religious beliefs. If their members are publicly flouting the designated moral beliefs of the organization, they are free to deny any priveledge they deem necessary as a punishment. From the religious standpoint, what they are doing by voting for all of these topics (the most important of which these days are abortion and gay marriage) is supporting sin. According to Catholic dogma, if supporting abortion is condemned as sin by the Pope, it's sin. The Church is to “admonish the undisciplined” (1 Thess. 5:3), and if anyone partakes of the eucharist “in an unworthy manner” “eats and drinks judgement to himself” (1 Cor. 11:27,29). Likewise, “Reject a factious man after a first and second warning, knowing that such a man is perverted and is sinning, being self-condemned.” (Titus 3:10-11) I do not know the official Catholic position on refusal of the eucharist, but this sounds fairly definitely in support of it to me.
As far as the interaction between politics and religion, that's covered as well. “Submit yourselves for the Lord's sake to every human institution, whether to a king as the one in authority, or to governors as sent by him for the punishment of evildoers and the praise of those who do right.” (1 Peter 2:13-14) However, blind subservience to the government is by no means demanded in situations such as in the United States, where the individual can freely participate in government, whether by voting or being elected to make laws, like these congressmen have been. “Act as free men, and do not use your freedom as a covering for evil, but use it as bondslaves of God.” (1 Peter 2:16) [The word "bondslave" can be meant literally or figuratively, and indicates voluntary subjection to something or someone. It does NOT mean literal slavery. Just a clarification of the meaning of the original Greek term.]
Overall, I think the position of the Catholic church on this issue is actually correct. While these congressmen may be right to a minor degree about sparking anti-Catholic sentiment (most likely only in those who already dislike the Catholic church for one reason or another), the Catholic church has every right to enforce their own rules. Indeed, they would be hypocrites if they accused people for breaking the rules, and then broke their own rules by not delivering the mandated consequences.
Oh well. This is likely to not go much of anywhere, really. Unless somebody DOES decide to cause a confrontation at the alter rail. That could quickly become intense political theatre.

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Thursday, May 20th, 2004

as beth stole a link from me, i shall feel no remorse for stealing one back from her.
with 16 million views, i'm sure some of you may have seen this already, but it's definitely worth a re-read.

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Thursday, May 20th, 2004

reading the news and various weblogs today has made me realize how much of a masturbatory act debating partisan politics with people is. in today's political landscape, most people already have their minds made up, and nothing anyone will say will sway them one way or the other, so it's useless to try to persuade people. the breathtakingly narrow view that the mass media provides of everything going on in the world essentially only gives you a view thru the sensationalism keyhole into what the nightly news can use to attract viewers and sell commercial time. news is superficial, sensationalized, and skewed to shock and to get attention. jammed into half-hour slots (minus commercials), the news available to most people isn't worth the electricity being used to run their television. i've been spending hours online lately reading as much news and analysis as i can get my hands on, and i'm only beginning to realize how complex some things are, and how there's no way that anyone who isn't actually there and involved can have any idea of what's truly going on. jamming one day in the life of all six billion people on this planet into 24 minutes (if you're curious, it comes out to 250 million lives per minute — to be proportional, the news should give the activities of everyone in the united states in just under 70 seconds) is just impossible.
and this isn't even going into any biases that may be extant in the media — an entirely different can of worms. (yes, these are important, because those few who have NOT already made up their mind are generally swayed by emotional responses to what they've seen in the news before they go vote.)
political discussion as debate is equally futile. while it may be enjoyable to watch an expert go at it, in the end nothing other than theoretical and perceived wins or losses are changed. true, the audience may be somewhat better informed about a situation, or how some people view it, but it effects no real change.
really, the only way political debate ISN'T pointless is if it's framed as a philosophical discussion of one type or another (such as, 'what is the essence of good government?') — and very few people can separate partisan reality from philosophical underpinnings. the only really good philosophical debates about politics is with people with whom i really had very few disagreements politically. unfortunate, really, because it would be better to learn with/from people who have opinions different from your own.
of course, these views are shaped somewhat by the fact that when i debate politics, i get very into it. as far as i'm concerned, it isn't a debate if you don't disagree. however, i do NOT get emotionally into what i'm discussing. intellectual disagreements should NEVER be taken personally, and i work very hard to make sure i don't do so. i view debate as a fencing contest, to the point where i intuitively sense what offensive or defensive moves are being made, and react to the dance of attack and riposte as well as the intellectual subject matter of the debate.
i suppose it's just general orneryness that makes me enjoy debating people. my great-grandfather barner did much the same thing, and various other relatives (barners, mostly) have always enjoyed confrontation. and while i know that the debate is futile, i'll still do it.
but i'll still loathe that i never get anywhere.

in other news, i have a snoopy band-aid.